20 Most Recent Seiko Kinetic watch Questions & Answers

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Warning about Seiko Kinetic batteries and capacitors


I frequently am sent Seiko Kinetics and the User says "this watch stopped and I tried to put a capacitor in it but it still didn't work. I know the capacitor was good because it was new and I checked it with a battery checker."
A Seiko Capacitor (battery) must NEVER be checked with a battery charge measuring device of any kind. The inexpensive battery checkers that are sold on eBay or Amazon will deplete a capacitor immediately and fully. And when the "new" capacitor is placed into the watch the watch will not run. It cannot run because it has not power to run because it has a depleted capacitor. And that capacitor will NOT recharge. The battery/capacitor is DOA. Dead. DNR.
##### (Another frequent mistake is to use metal tweezers when installing the capacitor instead of plastic tweezers. Or making contact with either the + pole or the negative pole. Or not correctly installing the mylar insulator in EXACTLY the same position it was when the battery was removed. It is tricky, and it trips up a lot of battery replacement attempts.
And occasionally I receive a watch that the User installed the battery upside down. A Seiko capacitor does not go into the battery well like most watches; it goes in "upside down", with the Positive side DOWN, and the negative side facing you when it is in the well.
But the most common reason a new capacitor placement does not make the Seiko Kinetic run is that when the rotor assembly was removed the User pressed down, even the slightest bit, when removing the screw that holds the rotor. That downward pressure pushes the second hand into the watch crystal, and it is now simply a dead watch.
The slot in the Rotor screw is the thinnest slot I have ever encountered, and I have several expensive screwdrivers that are truly precision.
But I have to use a whetstone to carefully grind down a precision screwdriver to an razor thin tip, before I can safely remove that Rotor screw.
I often break a single edge razor in half, and just use the razor blade, because
it is thin enough enter into the slot of the screw.

on Nov 10, 2018 | Seiko Kinetic watch


I thing required cleaning for the movement and new capacitor.

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Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Nov 10, 2018

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Vital danger to be aware of when working on a Seiko Kinetic.


When replacing the capacitor/battery of a Seiko Kinetic watch it is necessary to remove the pendulum that swings to create the electricity to charge the rechargeable capacitor.
The pendulum is fixed by a screw with a very thin slot.
If that screw is pressed down while it is being removed it will push the hands of the watch into the crystal, and the watch will be ruined.
It is vital to only turn the screw, and not apply pressure downward.
The slot of the screw too thin for most screwdrivers, and I either use a knife sharpening stone to shave off the sides of a precision screwdriver ( I like Wera brand screwdrivers ) or I use a razor blade.

on Oct 22, 2018 | Seiko Kinetic watch

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How to charge a Seiko Kinetic with an electric toothbrush charger


This is the Sonicare "Advance" model charger.
Other chargers will work, but many do not open with screws, they instead are welded or glued shut and must be shattered to get open.
I use the Advance charger for my toothbrush and to charge my watches.
This model has 2 very simple screws.
And the inside is arranged such that a watch fits logically over the flux.
Photo 2 shows the bottom of the charger.
Photo 3 shows the same charger with the screws removed and the bottom plate removed.
In every model of charger there should be a rectangular section and a circular section.
The circular section holds the electromagnetic flux generator. That is what will generate the power to charge your watch.
In most Seiko Kinetics the Generating Coils lays beneath the 8 o'clock marker on the watch.
You would like to have that 8 o'clock marker pointed toward the 9 o'clock spot on the Circle.
(See Photo 5)
On other chargers and with other watches simply rotate the watch around stopping ever 10 degrees or so for 10-15 seconds, until the watch starts to tick in 2 or 1 second intervals.
It may take several days to charge your Kinetic if it was fully discharged.
I hope this is helpful

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on Aug 16, 2018 | Seiko Kinetic watch

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Replacing the Battery/Capacitor of a Seiko Kinetic watch


There are some articles and videos circulating recently about replacing a Seiko Kinetic Capacitor with a common Silver Oxide battery, the type used in common watches.
In a word: Don't.

I have replaced over 200 Seiko Kinetic Capacitors (sometimes mistakenly referred to as a "battery") and am very comfortable discussing the right way to get a Kinetic running correctly, versus the wrong way.
Can you remove the Kinetic's rotor and put in a Silver Oxide battery the same size as the previous Capacitor and your watch will work? Possibly.
Will you install the new battery upside-down? Very likely.l
If you touch any of the vital contacts inside the watch with the battery will it fry your watch? Possibly.
Will the watch overheat or burn? Possibly. Typical batteries don't have the inner chemical makeup of a Lithium-Titanium Capacitor.
Is the pendulum that is weighted and designed to turn the rotor going to be negatively affected? Probably.

The cost of a correct Seiko Kinetic Capacitor has dropped dramatically, reputable sources like Amazon now sell genuine Seiko Capacitor kits for about 20 dollars.

Why risk a 400 dollar watch to save 10 dollars on a battery.

Let me know if you have any general questions about Seiko Kinetic Capacitors and/or Batteries.
There is a lot of inaccurate information floating around, which can be expensive.

on Mar 11, 2018 | Seiko Kinetic watch


Bill, when you say "does not work" I am going to guess you mean that the second hand does not sweep as it should, so you do not have an accurate indication of remaining capacitor charge.
There are many other malfunctions of the Indicator on a Seiko Kinetic but I am guessing that is your current watches malfunction.
The button at 2 o'clock depresses a tiny lever inside the watch, and that in turn releases a discharge from the capacitor.
The strength of that discharge swings the indicator.
The lever itself is very very small, and can be misaligned, very commonly after capacitor replacement.
Actual breakage of the lever is quite rare.
Does the button have a definite detente when you press it?
Or is it instead like pushing on Jello.
Is the button spring loaded such that it returns to the neutral state on its own?
It is actually a quick diagnosis for anyone familiar with Kinetics; as a quick peek will tell if a broken lever, absent button gasket, need of lubricant, etc.

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Aug 12, 2016


That is way too fast for a Seiko Kinetic. There is no adjustment to slow it down. With time of course it might run slower as the gears get dirty. Maybe Seiko will replace the movement, worth asking

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jun 09, 2016


All parts can be purchased by phone from the Seiko New York call line. They are extremely helpful and get your part as soon as it is available. This is the TRUE Seiko parts line - NOT an off brand. I have used this call line numerous times over the last couple of decades for my husbands Seiko watches. the phone number is:
(201) 529-5730 If they cannot get it no one can!

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 20, 2014


The bezel is available through any certified Seiko dealer, though I would suggest using one with a Certified Master Horologist on staff.

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Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 09, 2014


The issue reported is not about how to set the watch, it is about the fact that it stops if it us not worn continually. This could be an indicator of the movement needing to be serviced. Automatic watches such as yours need to be serviced regularly, every 3-5 years or as needed by such indications. My recommendation is to see a Certified Master Horologist to test the watch on the timing machine.

When serviced, there should be approximately a 45 hour power reserve when fully wound.



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Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 09, 2014


Hi, Look on page 11 of your manual for the proper procedure to restart watch after a battery change, or complete discharge of capacitor system. If you don't have the manual, Try this link:
http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/index.html

Take the four-digit module number from the back of the watch, enter it, and download a PDF of your watch setting-instructions/manual.
I hope this helps you. Thanks, Bill

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 14, 2013


This is obviously unsatisfactory and I can understand your problem. Even spring driven automatic watches will run for 2 - 3 days when not worn.

Your watch can either be charged by use (i.e. wearing it) or by winding the crown wheel, although there seem to be a variety on kinetic watches and it is not clear if all of them can be wound by hand (mine can't but it goes to sleep after two days and can stay in this mode for 3 months and re-starts when it is worn!)

For a fully description of the kinetic operation go to http://www.seikowatches.com/technology/kinetic/kinetic_dd.html and there you will will see a choice of kinetic watches.

You can also access the instruction manual list to check out how your watch is intended to operate. Some watches indicate days in two languages (as yours appears to do) and you can select the correct day by pulling the crown wheel to the middle position where you generally change the date by rotating it forward and the day by turning it backward. When turning it backward, you should see and alternative day and you should stop at this position. The watch will continue with the same language after this.
If this does not work, then you should be able to find out the day sign after reading the instructions.

If your watch is new and after reading all the literature you still cannot sort out how to make your watch run for a longer period, then contact the maker who should be able to help.

Good luck!

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 14, 2013


This watch operates on a capacitor which is charged by movement. It does not wind, but it has a weight that charges the capacitor by motion.

Take the watch in hand by placing your fingers under the caseback and your thumb on the crystal. Use a horizontal motion (landscape) to move the watch back and forth quickly approximately one foot left and right. You should feel the internal weight move.

Do this for at least five minutes. If the watch does not start to operate (the second hand does not move at one second increments) then either the capacitor must be replaced, or the movement is defective.

You may send the watch directly to Seiko for service, or I would strongly suggest visiting your local Certified Master Horologist for what is usually a free assessment and estimate of the repair.

If you are following the above directions, you have done nothing wrong, but the movement or capacitor needs to be replaced.

If you have just purchased this watch and the instructions do not resolve your situation, I would promptly return it and exchange it, as the model may have been sitting for a while, and have a bad capacitor.

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Jul 14, 2013


For sure it is time to replace that old capacitor and replace it with the latest solution that uses a Lithium Ion battery. Find a good experienced repair person to do this for you. I do this daily and I am a Certified Master Horologist/watch repairman.. Ron at TimelyWatchRepair.com

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Apr 23, 2013


First, does it say "Kinetic" on the face of the watch? If not, it is not a Seiko Kinetic. (You did not mention if it was a Kinetic or not.)

Second, the Serial number is not like any Seiko Kinetic I know, which is 2 4 digit numbers.

Third: The number you gave itself may indicate the type of button battery you need.

Good luck.

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Apr 17, 2013


It is unlikely that the capacitor will have any charge on it so you should shake it gently to charge it up. You certainly can't do any harm by charging it, even if the capacitor did have any charge.

Seiko Kinetic... | Answered on Apr 17, 2013

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